I think it's important to have a job that you don't have to sleepwalk through. More money is great, as is the opportunity to be mentored. But if you're going into that job begrudgingly then it's going to be a lonnnnnggg 8 hours every day.
I think you should follow your gut on this (and most everything else). Yes, you may be a little poorer and have less of a net, but you'll probably be more inspired and happier.
I think you should follow your gut on this (and most everything else). Yes, you may be a little poorer and have less of a net, but you'll probably be more inspired and happier.
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send this answer to a friendI think you should take the gaming job too unless one of two things is possible.
Your gut instinct after meeting with the people is that they are idiots and will never make it work or if it does fail for some reason unrelated, vagaries of the market, etc., you would be tainted in your future endeavors in this area by the failure.
Otherwise, I think you should go in the direction of your ultimate dream job whenever possible.
I don't know much about this industry so I do not know how a company failure is regarded which is why I added the caveats but you know your industry, and should use that knowledge to not only evaluate this start-up but to gauge how much their failure could hurt you.
Of course, if you are in there, and in charge to some degree, you can have a lot of influence shaping the company and the direction it can go too so if you have a lot to offer, you will be crafting the future of the company as well as your own.
Your gut instinct after meeting with the people is that they are idiots and will never make it work or if it does fail for some reason unrelated, vagaries of the market, etc., you would be tainted in your future endeavors in this area by the failure.
Otherwise, I think you should go in the direction of your ultimate dream job whenever possible.
I don't know much about this industry so I do not know how a company failure is regarded which is why I added the caveats but you know your industry, and should use that knowledge to not only evaluate this start-up but to gauge how much their failure could hurt you.
Of course, if you are in there, and in charge to some degree, you can have a lot of influence shaping the company and the direction it can go too so if you have a lot to offer, you will be crafting the future of the company as well as your own.
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send this answer to a friendWhile I see what the other vixens are saying, I think the other job has a lot more stability. Is that something that is important to you? In this economy it is definitely something to look at.
I'd sit down and really think about what my priorities are. If this gaming company fails, what is your plan? You may not get another opportunity like this.
I'd personally take the first job, but this is your choice. Which one are you leaning towards?
I'd sit down and really think about what my priorities are. If this gaming company fails, what is your plan? You may not get another opportunity like this.
I'd personally take the first job, but this is your choice. Which one are you leaning towards?
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send this answer to a friendIn order to build your career, you need to do two things. Gain experience and make connections with other people.
The relationships you build at either one of these jobs are going to make a huge difference in your future. You are going to learn at either job. I find personally that I learn more when I'm tossed into the sea and forced to swim, but that's just me. I find it helps to be surrounded by experts, but only if they act as mentors or share knowledge.
I also find that the single greatest factor in how much I enjoy my job is the work culture; the environment and the group of people I work with, so that's something to take into consideration.
You're going to find completely different work cultures between the two companies. Established companies tend to have more beauracracy and are less agile. They tend to be less innovative. Startups are generally more on the cutting edge and tend to be better learning environments. The drawback is longer hours, less stability, less pay/benefits.
If you are early in your career, pick the startup. You're going to meet tons of other people also on their way up, and there are no guarantees that any job is forever. HP just fired 25,000 people.
The relationships you build at either one of these jobs are going to make a huge difference in your future. You are going to learn at either job. I find personally that I learn more when I'm tossed into the sea and forced to swim, but that's just me. I find it helps to be surrounded by experts, but only if they act as mentors or share knowledge.
I also find that the single greatest factor in how much I enjoy my job is the work culture; the environment and the group of people I work with, so that's something to take into consideration.
You're going to find completely different work cultures between the two companies. Established companies tend to have more beauracracy and are less agile. They tend to be less innovative. Startups are generally more on the cutting edge and tend to be better learning environments. The drawback is longer hours, less stability, less pay/benefits.
If you are early in your career, pick the startup. You're going to meet tons of other people also on their way up, and there are no guarantees that any job is forever. HP just fired 25,000 people.
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send this answer to a friendOh and one more thing. Most successful people have a string of failures behind them. And those successful people will tell you that those failures were their greatest learning experiences.
Working for a failed startup will not reflect poorly on your career, as long as you gained experience while you were there.
Working for a failed startup will not reflect poorly on your career, as long as you gained experience while you were there.
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send this answer to a friendNatalie wrote: While I see what the other vixens are saying, I think the other job has a lot more stability. Is that something that is important to you? In this economy it is definitely something to look at.
I'd sit down and really think about what my priorities are. If this gaming company fails, what is your plan? You may not get another opportunity like this.
I'd personally take the first job, but this is your choice. Which one are you leaning towards?
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I just got the finalized offer today ; 35000 a year on a one year contract, paid biweekly. It's very low compared to what my profession is supposed to earn . The economy is rough, and I might just have to take the first offer and bite my tongue.
If this second company fails if I choose it, I'd have to go back to the job hunt like everyone else. But I was really leaning towards that one. But financially I don't know if I can live with that salary in a place that charges over 1000 on a single room rent (no parking included)
If this second company fails if I choose it, I'd have to go back to the job hunt like everyone else. But I was really leaning towards that one. But financially I don't know if I can live with that salary in a place that charges over 1000 on a single room rent (no parking included)
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send this answer to a friendThanks everyone. I have a clearer idea of everything now. While I was leaning towards the startup company, what they offer me might not be enough to live where I currently am.
I think, I'm going to wait for the finalized offer from the first company, and decide from thete. Ultimately, and ideally I'd choose the second option, but if the first one offers significantly more than unfortunately I'll have to get that one. Not that there's anything wrong with tgat, but as AV1 said, they're going to be long boring days.
I think, I'm going to wait for the finalized offer from the first company, and decide from thete. Ultimately, and ideally I'd choose the second option, but if the first one offers significantly more than unfortunately I'll have to get that one. Not that there's anything wrong with tgat, but as AV1 said, they're going to be long boring days.
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send this answer to a friendI'm thrilled for your opportunities but that sounds shockingly low for an engineering type job, especially if it's in California, where a lot of those jobs are. Do you have a bachelor's or higher? If so, an entry level job should start at least 10k higher than that.
I'm only mentioning this because it's incredibly important to be your own advocate and know your worth, and it's ok or even expected to negotiate for more, especially since you have two offers on the table.
I'm only mentioning this because it's incredibly important to be your own advocate and know your worth, and it's ok or even expected to negotiate for more, especially since you have two offers on the table.
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send this answer to a friendhoney wrote: I'm thrilled for your opportunities but that sounds shockingly low for an engineering type job, especially if it's in California, where a lot of those jobs are. Do you have a bachelor's or higher? If so, an entry level job should start at least 10k higher than that.
I'm only mentioning this because it's incredibly important to be your own advocate and know your worth, and it's ok or even expected to negotiate for more, especially since you have two offers on the table.
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Honey, I appreciate the advice you give.
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send this answer to a friendehvwon wrote: Honey, I appreciate the advice you give.
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Hey thanks! Right back atcha!
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I have two potential job offers, which is great, but now I don't know which one I should pursue.
I guess in a nutshell, the 1st job offer seems a bit unsatisfying in terms of advancing in my career. I'll be starting at the bottom of the totem pole doing really boring redundant work that doesn't draw from my skills, but I'll be surrounded by pros and given a pretty great salary. But this position is no longer within my intended career goals. Ideally I want to stay within the video game industry, but this job is already veering away from games into animation. Which is still great, but not in my ideal plans. This company seems pretty stable, but their future plans just keep turning away from gaming.
The other one is from a starting company who already secured some funding. I'll be given a Lead title, which is a pretty high title. I'm going to be in charge of one complete department and completely be free in pursuing my career goals. But because this company is starting, the future with this company seems uncertain. I'll be drawing from my current skillsets, and I won't have pros around me to help if I need it, so anything I learn will be on my own. I don't know if this company will be the new Disney or just crash and burn after a while. Also the salary won't be as high, so I'll be making some sacrifices. But this company will stay competely inside of the game industry.
The perfect solution would be to take one offer and try it out and if it doesn't work, switch over to the other one. But the problem is both are giving me an offer at the same time, and they want me to start full time at the same time. If I say no to one, the doors to that company close for good, so I can't just openly say no and then show up months later expecting the offer again.
Thanks for taking the time to read this wall of text and give me any insight if you can.
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