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HAPPY WORLD POETRY DAY Vixens! What's your favourite poem?

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    For a very long time mine was If by Rudyard Kipling. Until I found out how racist he was.

    Now it's Max Ermann's Desiderata:

    Desiderata

    Go placidly amid the noise and haste,
    and remember what peace there may be in silence.
    As far as possible without surrender
    be on good terms with all persons.
    Speak your truth quietly and clearly;
    and listen to others,
    even the dull and the ignorant;
    they too have their story.

    Avoid loud and aggressive persons,
    they are vexations to the spirit.
    If you compare yourself with others,
    you may become vain and bitter;
    for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.
    Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans.


    Keep interested in your own career, however humble;
    it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.
    Exercise caution in your business affairs;
    for the world is full of trickery.
    But let this not blind you to what virtue there is;
    many persons strive for high ideals;
    and everywhere life is full of heroism.


    Be yourself.
    Especially, do not feign affection.
    Neither be cynical about love;
    for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment
    it is as perennial as the grass.


    Take kindly the counsel of the years,
    gracefully surrendering the things of youth.
    Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune.
    But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings.
    Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness.
    Beyond a wholesome discipline,
    be gentle with yourself.


    You are a child of the universe,
    no less than the trees and the stars;
    you have a right to be here.
    And whether or not it is clear to you,
    no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.


    Therefore be at peace with God,
    whatever you conceive Him to be,
    and whatever your labors and aspirations,
    in the noisy confusion of life keep peace with your soul.


    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams,
    it is still a beautiful world.
    Be cheerful.
    Strive to be happy.

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    What lips my lips have kissed, and where, and why, I have forgotten, and what arms have lain
    Under my head till morning; but the rain
    Is full of ghosts tonight, that tap and sigh
    Upon the glass and listen for reply,
    And in my heart there stirs a quiet pain
    For unremembered lads that not again
    Will turn to me at midnight with a cry.
    Thus in the winter stands the lonely tree,
    Nor knows what birds have vanished one by one,
    Yet knows its boughs more silent than before:
    I cannot say what loves have come and gone,
    I only know that summer sang in me
    A little while, that in me sings no more.

    Edna St Vincent Millay

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    ehvwon wrote: What lips my lips have kissed, and where, and why, I have forgotten, and what arms have lain Under my head till morning; but the rain Is full of ghosts tonight, that tap and sigh Upon the glass and listen for reply, And in my heart there stirs a quiet pain For unremembered lads that not again Will turn to me at midnight with a cry. Thus in the winter stands the lonely tree, Nor knows what birds have vanished one by one, Yet knows its boughs more silent than before: I cannot say what loves have come and gone, I only know that summer sang in me A little while, that in me sings no more. Edna St Vincent Millay

    Wow, so melancholically beautiful. I just recited it loudly with dramatical flair for effect :) I love it!

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    Cy wrote: Wow, so melancholically beautiful. I just recited it loudly with dramatical flair for effect :) I love it!

    I love it. :-)

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    In this short Life
    That only lasts an hour
    How much -- how little -- is
    Within our power

    -Emily Dickinson

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    Iva wrote: In this short Life That only lasts an hour How much -- how little -- is Within our power -Emily Dickinson

    So true. Thank you for this reminder Iva :)

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    Cy wrote: So true. Thank you for this reminder Iva :)

    That's why I love this poem, so profound in its simplicity :)

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    Crystal Stair by Langston Hughes makes me cry EVERY time I read it.

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    WHERE TO BEGIN? I'll try not to usurp this thread too much but there are SO.MANY.GOOD.ONES.

    The Conqueror Worm

    Lo! ’t is a gala night
    Within the lonesome latter years!
    An angel throng, bewinged, bedight
    In veils, and drowned in tears,
    Sit in a theatre, to see
    A play of hopes and fears,
    While the orchestra breathes fitfully
    The music of the spheres.

    Mimes, in the form of God on high,
    Mutter and mumble low,
    And hither and thither fly—
    Mere puppets they, who come and go
    At bidding of vast formless things
    That shift the scenery to and fro,
    Flapping from out their Condor wings
    Invisible Wo!

    That motley drama—oh, be sure
    It shall not be forgot!
    With its Phantom chased for evermore
    By a crowd that seize it not,
    Through a circle that ever returneth in
    To the self-same spot,
    And much of Madness, and more of Sin,
    And Horror the soul of the plot.

    But see, amid the mimic rout,
    A crawling shape intrude!
    A blood-red thing that writhes from out
    The scenic solitude!
    It writhes!—it writhes!—with mortal pangs
    The mimes become its food,
    And seraphs sob at vermin fangs
    In human gore imbued.

    Out—out are the lights—out all!
    And, over each quivering form,
    The curtain, a funeral pall,
    Comes down with the rush of a storm,
    While the angels, all pallid and wan,
    Uprising, unveiling, affirm
    That the play is the tragedy, “Man,”
    And its hero, the Conqueror Worm.

    --- Edgar Allan Poe

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    I looked it up Maggie, such a beautiful poem:

    Well, son, I'll tell you:
    Life for me ain't been no crystal stair.
    It's had tacks in it,
    And splinters,
    And boards torn up,
    And places with no carpet on the floor—
    Bare.
    But all the time
    I'se been a-climbin' on,
    And reachin' landin's,
    And turnin' corners,
    And sometimes goin' in the dark
    Where there ain't been no light.
    So, boy, don't you turn back.
    Don't you set down on the steps.
    'Cause you finds it's kinder hard.
    Don't you fall now—
    For I'se still goin', honey,
    I'se still climbin',
    And life for me ain't been no crystal stair.

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    BirdofHermes wrote: WHERE TO BEGIN? I'll try not to usurp this thread too much but there are SO.MANY.GOOD.ONES. The Conqueror Worm Lo! ’t is a gala night Within the lonesome latter years! An angel throng, bewinged, bedight In veils, and drowned in tears, Sit in a theatre, to see A play of hopes and fears, While the orchestra breathes fitfully The music of the spheres. Mimes, in the form of God on high, Mutter and mumble low, And hither and thither fly— Mere puppets they, who come and go At bidding of vast formless things That shift the scenery to and fro, Flapping from out their Condor wings Invisible Wo! That motley drama—oh, be sure It shall not be forgot! With its Phantom chased for evermore By a crowd that seize it not, Through a circle that ever returneth in To the self-same spot, And much of Madness, and more of Sin, And Horror the soul of the plot. But see, amid the mimic rout, A crawling shape intrude! A blood-red thing that writhes from out The scenic solitude! It writhes!—it writhes!—with mortal pangs The mimes become its food, And seraphs sob at vermin fangs In human gore imbued. Out—out are the lights—out all! And, over each quivering form, The curtain, a funeral pall, Comes down with the rush of a storm, While the angels, all pallid and wan, Uprising, unveiling, affirm That the play is the tragedy, “Man,” And its hero, the Conqueror Worm. --- Edgar Allan Poe

    Oh, usurp away M! I'm getting to know so many poems I'd never heard of both here and on people's FBs. I'm loving this day. Go on, post another one!

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    Cy wrote: Oh, usurp away M! I'm getting to know so many poems I'd never heard of both here and on people's FBs. I'm loving this day. Go on, post another one!

    SAY NO MORE!

    A Poison Tree

    I was angry with my friend:
    I told my wrath, my wrath did end.
    I was angry with my foe;
    I told it not, my wrath did grow.

    And I water'd it in fears,
    Night & morning with my tears;
    And I sunned it with my smiles
    And with soft deceitful wiles.

    And it grew both day and night,
    Till it bore an apple bright;
    And my foe beheld it shine,
    And he knew that it was mine,

    And into my garden stole
    When the night had veil'd the pole:
    In the morning glad I see
    My foe outstretch'd beneath the tree.

    --- William Blake

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    Jabberwocky!

    'Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
    Did gyre and gimble in the wabe;
    All mimsy were the borogoves,
    And the mome raths outgrabe.

    "Beware the Jabberwock, my son
    The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
    Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
    The frumious Bandersnatch!"

    He took his vorpal sword in hand;
    Long time the manxome foe he sought—
    So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
    And stood awhile in thought.

    And, as in uffish thought he stood,
    The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame,
    Came whiffling through the tulgey wood,
    And burbled as it came!

    One, two! One, two! And through and through
    The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
    He left it dead, and with its head
    He went galumphing back.

    "And hast thou slain the Jabberwock?
    Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
    O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!"
    He chortled in his joy.

    'Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
    Did gyre and gimble in the wabe;
    All mimsy were the borogoves,
    And the mome raths outgrabe.

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    ^ I LOVE Lewis Carrol!

    How about some shameless self promotion? Hell, I'm a part of the world! I wrote this one likening my man to a pathogen. Heh heh.

    Lovesick

    Get out of here you pest,
    you wee invader,
    you pathogen!
    What do you think you're doing anyway?
    Diseasing me, poisoning my immunity?
    Making me susceptible to your charms?
    Well the jokes on you.
    I am nothing but a trickster
    who spins webs to keep from
    being truly exposed,
    hiding right in front of you...

    But oh, you've pulled open a trap door,
    thanks a lot!
    How do you like me now that you've seen?
    How can I trust you now
    that you've slimed your way
    beyond the gate?
    Beyond the most basic of obstacles
    routinely placed to keep
    filth like you out?
    Out, out, out damned spot!
    There is no home for you here,
    no room to share,
    no light to shed.
    I cannot be what you want,
    especially not now that I've
    grown accustomed to your
    unnatural occupation of my soul.

    I fear my sickness is worsening
    for now I crave your touch
    when I feel your presence lessening.
    Have you become more potent?
    Feasting off the pitiful resistance
    that my creaky armor
    now offers you.
    Hope, health, all is compromised
    and I realize now
    that I am completely
    infected.

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    The Road Not Taken by Robert Frost:

    Two roads diverged in a yellow wood,
    And sorry I could not travel both
    And be one traveler, long I stood
    And looked down one as far as I could
    To where it bent in the undergrowth;

    Then took the other, as just as fair,
    And having perhaps the better claim,
    Because it was grassy and wanted wear;
    Though as for that the passing there
    Had worn them really about the same,

    And both that morning equally lay
    In leaves no step had trodden black.
    Oh, I kept the first for another day!
    Yet knowing how way leads on to way,
    I doubted if I should ever come back.

    I shall be telling this with a sigh
    Somewhere ages and ages hence:
    Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
    I took the one less traveled by,
    And that has made all the difference.

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    Afternoons, by Philip Larkin

    Summer is fading:
    The leaves fall in ones and twos
    From trees bordering
    The new recreation ground.
    In the hollows of afternoons
    Young mothers assemble
    At swing and sandpit
    Setting free their children.

    Behind them, at intervals,
    Stand husbands in skilled trades,
    An estateful of washing,
    And the albums, lettered
    Our Wedding, lying
    Near the television:
    Before them, the wind
    Is ruining their courting-places

    That are still courting-places
    (But the lovers are all in school),
    And their children, so intent on
    Finding more unripe acrons,
    Expect to be taken home.
    Their beauty has thickened.
    Something is pushing them
    To the side of their own lives.

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    BirdofHermes wrote: ^ I LOVE Lewis Carrol! How about some shameless self promotion? Hell, I'm a part of the world! I wrote this one likening my man to a pathogen. Heh heh. Lovesick Get out of here you pest, you wee invader, you pathogen! What do you think you're doing anyway? Diseasing me, poisoning my immunity? Making me susceptible to your charms? Well the jokes on you. I am nothing but a trickster who spins webs to keep from being truly exposed, hiding right in front of you... But oh, you've pulled open a trap door, thanks a lot! How do you like me now that you've seen? How can I trust you now that you've slimed your way beyond the gate? Beyond the most basic of obstacles routinely placed to keep filth like you out? Out, out, out damned spot! There is no home for you here, no room to share, no light to shed. I cannot be what you want, especially not now that I've grown accustomed to your unnatural occupation of my soul. I fear my sickness is worsening for now I crave your touch when I feel your presence lessening. Have you become more potent? Feasting off the pitiful resistance that my creaky armor now offers you. Hope, health, all is compromised and I realize now that I am completely infected.

    Oh wow, you're good at this.

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    Sherlyn wrote: Jabberwocky! 'Twas brillig, and the slithy toves Did gyre and gimble in the wabe; All mimsy were the borogoves, And the mome raths outgrabe. "Beware the Jabberwock, my son The jaws that bite, the claws that catch! Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun The frumious Bandersnatch!" He took his vorpal sword in hand; Long time the manxome foe he sought— So rested he by the Tumtum tree, And stood awhile in thought. And, as in uffish thought he stood, The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame, Came whiffling through the tulgey wood, And burbled as it came! One, two! One, two! And through and through The vorpal blade went snicker-snack! He left it dead, and with its head He went galumphing back. "And hast thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!" He chortled in his joy. 'Twas brillig, and the slithy toves Did gyre and gimble in the wabe; All mimsy were the borogoves, And the mome raths outgrabe.

    Is there a Cliff Notes version of this poem Sherlyn? Aye, I'm lost.

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    A Valediction: Forbidding Mourning
    John Donne

    As virtuous men pass mildly away,
    And whisper to their souls to go,
    Whilst some of their sad friends do say
    The breath goes now, and some say, No:

    So let us melt, and make no noise,
    No tear-floods, nor sigh-tempests move;
    'Twere profanation of our joys
    To tell the laity our love.

    Moving of th' earth brings harms and fears,
    Men reckon what it did, and meant;
    But trepidation of the spheres,
    Though greater far, is innocent.

    Dull sublunary lovers' love
    (Whose soul is sense) cannot admit
    Absence, because it doth remove
    Those things which elemented it.

    But we by a love so much refined,
    That our selves know not what it is,
    Inter-assured of the mind,
    Care less, eyes, lips, and hands to miss.

    Our two souls therefore, which are one,
    Though I must go, endure not yet
    A breach, but an expansion,
    Like gold to airy thinness beat.

    If they be two, they are two so
    As stiff twin compasses are two;
    Thy soul, the fixed foot, makes no show
    To move, but doth, if the other do.

    And though it in the center sit,
    Yet when the other far doth roam,
    It leans and hearkens after it,
    And grows erect, as that comes home.

    Such wilt thou be to me, who must,
    Like th' other foot, obliquely run;
    Thy firmness makes my circle just,
    And makes me end where I begun.



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    Natalie wrote: The Road Not Taken by Robert Frost: Two roads diverged in a yellow wood, And sorry I could not travel both And be one traveler, long I stood And looked down one as far as I could To where it bent in the undergrowth; Then took the other, as just as fair, And having perhaps the better claim, Because it was grassy and wanted wear; Though as for that the passing there Had worn them really about the same, And both that morning equally lay In leaves no step had trodden black. Oh, I kept the first for another day! Yet knowing how way leads on to way, I doubted if I should ever come back. I shall be telling this with a sigh Somewhere ages and ages hence: Two roads diverged in a wood, and I— I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference.

    Such a great, timeless message in this one. Thanks!

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    honey wrote: A Valediction: Forbidding Mourning John Donne As virtuous men pass mildly away, And whisper to their souls to go, Whilst some of their sad friends do say The breath goes now, and some say, No: So let us melt, and make no noise, No tear-floods, nor sigh-tempests move; 'Twere profanation of our joys To tell the laity our love. Moving of th' earth brings harms and fears, Men reckon what it did, and meant; But trepidation of the spheres, Though greater far, is innocent. Dull sublunary lovers' love (Whose soul is sense) cannot admit Absence, because it doth remove Those things which elemented it. But we by a love so much refined, That our selves know not what it is, Inter-assured of the mind, Care less, eyes, lips, and hands to miss. Our two souls therefore, which are one, Though I must go, endure not yet A breach, but an expansion, Like gold to airy thinness beat. If they be two, they are two so As stiff twin compasses are two; Thy soul, the fixed foot, makes no show To move, but doth, if the other do. And though it in the center sit, Yet when the other far doth roam, It leans and hearkens after it, And grows erect, as that comes home. Such wilt thou be to me, who must, Like th' other foot, obliquely run; Thy firmness makes my circle just, And makes me end where I begun.

    Ah, John Donne, we meet again. It's been 10 years since his poems were required reading in my high school English class but I'm still having issues reading this particular one. Mr. Tucker wouldn't be too proud.

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    Cass wrote: Afternoons, by Philip Larkin Summer is fading: The leaves fall in ones and twos From trees bordering The new recreation ground. In the hollows of afternoons Young mothers assemble At swing and sandpit Setting free their children. Behind them, at intervals, Stand husbands in skilled trades, An estateful of washing, And the albums, lettered Our Wedding, lying Near the television: Before them, the wind Is ruining their courting-places That are still courting-places (But the lovers are all in school), And their children, so intent on Finding more unripe acrons, Expect to be taken home. Their beauty has thickened. Something is pushing them To the side of their own lives.

    I'd never heard of Phillip Larkin before, thanks for enriching my poem knowledge.

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    Cy wrote: I'd never heard of Phillip Larkin before, thanks for enriching my poem knowledge.

    Check out his book "The Whitsun Weddings"

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    Oh and i LOVE this one too:


    THE SUN RISING.
    by John Donne


    BUSY old fool, unruly Sun,
    Why dost thou thus,
    Through windows, and through curtains, call on us ?
    Must to thy motions lovers' seasons run ?
    Saucy pedantic wretch, go chide
    Late school-boys and sour prentices,
    Go tell court-huntsmen that the king will ride,
    Call country ants to harvest offices ;
    Love, all alike, no season knows nor clime,
    Nor hours, days, months, which are the rags of time.

    Thy beams so reverend, and strong
    Why shouldst thou think ?
    I could eclipse and cloud them with a wink,
    But that I would not lose her sight so long.
    If her eyes have not blinded thine,
    Look, and to-morrow late tell me,
    Whether both th' Indias of spice and mine
    Be where thou left'st them, or lie here with me.
    Ask for those kings whom thou saw'st yesterday,
    And thou shalt hear, "All here in one bed lay."

    She's all states, and all princes I ;
    Nothing else is ;
    Princes do but play us ; compared to this,
    All honour's mimic, all wealth alchemy.
    Thou, Sun, art half as happy as we,
    In that the world's contracted thus ;
    Thine age asks ease, and since thy duties be
    To warm the world, that's done in warming us.
    Shine here to us, and thou art everywhere ;
    This bed thy center is, these walls thy sphere.

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    Cy wrote: Is there a Cliff Notes version of this poem Sherlyn? Aye, I'm lost.

    It's just gibberish that Carroll invented, but from it one can deduce a classic take on a man slaughtering a terrifying beast. I wish the beast were Rush Limbaugh. ;)

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    I won't post it, because it's epic, but Song of Myself by Walt Whitman is definitely a fave.

    Arthur Rimbaud is one of my favorites. I don't know what to post, he has so many good ones! But I love how simple, pretty and relatable this one is.

    CLEVER GIRL

    In the brown dining room, brimming
    with sweet scents of varnish and fruit,
    I casually filled my plate with Belgian
    Morsels and sank into an easy chair.

    I listened to the clock as I ate, happy and still.
    Then the kitchen door opened with a warm gust
    --And a servant girl emerged, who knows why,
    Her scarf loose, her hair temptingly arranged.

    And while brushing a trembling finger across
    The velvety pink peach of her cheek,
    Her little-girl lips affected a pout

    And she leaned towards me, adjusting my plates
    Just so; then, casually, angling for a kiss--
    Said softly, "My cheek is SO cold. Here, feel...."


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    AV1 I love that poem.



    If You Forget Me

    I want you to know
    one thing.

    You know how this is:
    if I look
    at the crystal moon, at the red branch
    of the slow autumn at my window,
    if I touch
    near the fire
    the impalpable ash
    or the wrinkled body of the log,
    everything carries me to you,
    as if everything that exists,
    aromas, light, metals,
    were little boats
    that sail
    toward those isles of yours that wait for me.

    Well, now,
    if little by little you stop loving me
    I shall stop loving you little by little.

    If suddenly
    you forget me
    do not look for me,
    for I shall already have forgotten you.

    If you think it long and mad,
    the wind of banners
    that passes through my life,
    and you decide
    to leave me at the shore
    of the heart where I have roots,
    remember
    that on that day,
    at that hour,
    I shall lift my arms
    and my roots will set off
    to seek another land.

    But
    if each day,
    each hour,
    you feel that you are destined for me
    with implacable sweetness,
    if each day a flower
    climbs up to your lips to seek me,
    ah my love, ah my own,
    in me all that fire is repeated,
    in me nothing is extinguished or forgotten,
    my love feeds on your love, beloved,
    and as long as you live it will be in your arms
    without leaving mine.

    Pablo Neruda

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